The Ultimate Mom Hack? For Ashley Graham and Karlie Kloss, It’s Following Your Instincts

What was the vibe like on set? It seemed like it was just a fun playdate with friends. 

AG: The only things we were missing were more dinosaurs, more trucks, and more snacks. At one point Isaac was grabbing Levi and asking if he wanted to dance, the twins were banging on something, one was crawling up the back of the chair, and Karlie and I were just chatting. 

KK: I was so nervous for this shoot because my son Levi is so shy and Ashley’s kids [are] just superstars. They knew where the camera was, and how to pose, and they smiled at the perfect time. And Levi was, like, hiding under my leg. 

How was modeling in this campaign different or perhaps more special than being in front of the camera for a top fashion campaign or walking down a runway? 

KK: This is a campaign that is so authentic, and so actually—Ashley, I don’t know if you feel this way—but given that we’ve both been in the industry and worked as models for so many years, I feel like it’s actually easier to play a character on a runway or in a photoshoot. You kind of take on this other persona, whereas this photoshoot was so deeply personal. 

AG: We literally had way too much to talk about and I was like, “We’ll continue this on my podcast, Karlie, over drinks.” 

Let’s discuss some of those topics that arose during the shoot. You both spoke a lot about handling unsolicited advice, but I’m also curious about negativity. When I was pregnant and after I had my daughter, I realized that a lot of parents, when you first meet or connect, they often lead with the negative—“Get ready to never sleep again,” or “Live it up now until you no longer have a life,” or “Just wait until they hit the terrible twos.” I don’t think parents know they do this and perhaps it’s just a strange subconscious way of connecting, but I am curious to know how you tackle this and how it makes you feel? 

AG: I can’t stand that. I have always come from a place where words have power, and whatever you say you’re speaking it into existence. So anyone who says “terrible twos,” I refuse them right then and there and I’m like, “It’s not terrible twos, it’s terrific twos.” Or I’ll hear, “Oh, girls are so hard,” and I’m like, Okay so are you telling me I’m so lucky to have just boys, but you do realize you’re talking to a woman? I hate that. My mom, just like Karlie’s mom, has all girls, and my mom told me she wouldn’t have traded it for the world. She loved raising us; it was so fun. I think a lot of people like to come from the negative anyway, so I like to change the narrative before they even go into it. 

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